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There was a post with an article a while back about a black dr who published a reference guide(book? Research paper?) About how signs and symptoms usually appear differently on different skin tones. I’m amazed someone had to actually publish something on that topic but honestly, I’m not surprised. There was another post about how women experience drug side effects more often than men because the dosage recommendations are based on the size and weight of the average male.

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In my mind, it’s like each illness has a checklist of symptoms and you have to hit a certain amount of boxes to be considered to have it. Since illness presents different it’s up to the Drs to know each checklist, visual symptoms on people of different skin tones are just more boxes on the same list.

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Omg, there’s such a coffee circle jerk down here. I’ll go ahead and say it. Poop regulation is an unwanted side effect. Just give me zoomy bean juice. Even if it tastes bad. I love coffee, I have hundreds of dollars worth of equipment and search for beans I like to hand grind. But that’s what it takes to make coffee taste good. Which means it doesn’t in the first place. Upvote for OP

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This is not an unpopular opinion. Unless your getting fresh coffee (expense isn’t usually the issue with taste to smell disparity, it’s freshness) prepared well (sorry you eyeballing some spoons of coffee that’s being tossed into your dirty $10 Mr coffee isn’t ever going to turn out perfect) it’s going to smell more “like coffee” then taste.

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I honestly love the taste of coffee nowadays, and what people tell you is right; an expensive coffee, from the right roaster and right machine, tastes amazing. It’s possible to have a filter coffee that is sweet and sour, has flavor notes of strawberry, red berries, etc. but for 250 grams of beans that would cost you about But yeah, if it ain’t for you it ain’t and that’s understandable.

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think it’s weird that coffee isn’t called something else when cream and sugar is added; its an entirely different drink by almost any definition. Its the exact opposite flavor, the color changed, the smell changed, its even a different viscosity unless its a watered down creamer; its delicious but its like saying you enjoy drinking milk but you only have it in the form of milkshakes.

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But then, someone I know got me the best Christmas gift: a 3 month subscription to Angel’s Cup. They send you 4 packages of beans a month, basically enough for about 3-4 cups of coffee per package. The packages only have a number on them, and you download the app and drink the coffee and try to taste notes, etc. You fill out a form the entire time you’re drinking it so you have to really think about what it is you’re drinking.

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You can buy some pretty decent bags for, like, ten bucks, and it’ll last you a month of daily drinking. That plus a pour-over dripper means you’ll get coffee that, while bitter, doesn’t taste acidic or otherwise terrible. I would wager a guess that you’ve never had a smooth cup of coffee, you’re missing out. That being said, I guess that means I like drinking bitter, dark, brown, complex morning potion.

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Real shit, it always smells good to me. I’ve tried to like it so much, pure by itself or with sweeteners. Cheap vs high quality. I’ve ordered expensive stuff people recommended. I’ve had it made different ways. Not for me. Sometimes I think connoisseurs are just fanboys and will never admit it sucks. Good coffee isn’t bitter. When coffee gets overheated it gets progressively more bitter it can also get bitter if it’s stale or over-brewed same goes for most teas btw.

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Real shit, it always smells good to me. I’ve tried to like it so much, pure by itself or with sweeteners. Cheap vs high quality. I’ve ordered expensive stuff people recommended. I’ve had it made different ways. Not for me. Sometimes I think connoisseurs are just fanboys and will never admit it sucks.

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Then she heated the spoon and put the bottom on the pad of butter. then swirled that around in her coffee. She explained this was one way to resurrect coffee that was too thin or not of the best quality, by introducing fats, ‘that’s why people use cream and milk”. She explained how / why having a lipid (the most straightforward being butter) worked – and worked especially as she only liked gasp black coffee, and a bit of sugar.

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Over many moons since then, and slowly I find myself on the flip side of this argument. Occasionally, I will foofoo my coffee, with whipped cream or heavy cream or dolce-du-Leche or buttermilk, but by and large I’ve long since found myself having black coffee with a little honey and maybe a whiff of cinnamon or ginger or something.

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A lot of improvement was not with the coffee, but with how we prepared it. It’s amazing what happens when you clean the ever-loving fuck out of a coffee-machine that had never been cleaned. So we magically had 3 ancient Bunn coffee-machines that went from being on their last legs, to be able to actually bang out more coffee because everything was cleaned and working properly.

 

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Thirdly – So it was figured, that if we poured some of the newly made-up coffee back into the filter area and swished it about with a spoon, everything got mixed, went into suspension and * magically** the coffee was both thicker and a bit tastier – properly speaking the coffee was in a more complete suspension.

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Heh, hated the stuff, wouldn’t drink it for many years. Then I got a job at a coffee shop, not a Starbucks but it was such that if we made a bit of extra money we could vary up the coffee we purchased. At the time, I wouldn’t drink it without a 2:1 ratio of cream and sugar, and could not fathom how anyone could drink it black or black with sugar. As a coffee drinker, I don’t like the taste at all, only do it for the caffeine kick. If I order a coffee I always get an espresso, people think I’m a coffee pro but really it’s just less disgusting liquid for the same amount of caffeine.

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Then one day I had occasion to order the most expensive coffee on the list – 6 times more expensive than the regular bag of beans. And I did a blind study, replacing out the really good stuff, in line with the regular stuff. We had about 800 customers on a given day, about 200-300 of them were grizzled wall-street guys, who’re sole interaction every day at 6 am was very limited, among them there was almost no variation.

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Pulling a perfect shot and tasting no bitterness or astringency is such a different experience. You can get anything from really toasty chocolate flavors to acidic bright fruit flavors. If you have the patience for it, it’s so rewarding to brew good coffee yourself. I occasionally go to my local coffee shops and Starbucks in a pinch, but the money I invested in equipment generally guilts me into brewing from home especially nowadays. Then again, you can just not like coffee nor care to try to like it.

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Once there you get to appreciate the literally stunning array of flavors: fruits, herbs, earthy, woody. Warning I’m an unapologetic coffee snob. Whatever you do, if you truly want to learn coffee, never add milk, cream, or sugar. If you do you are just masking aspects of coffee you don’t like. (Note I’m speaking from pour-over preps not espresso…that’s an entirely different realm unto itself….and a foray into over roasted hell).

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I’m the exact same way OP, and here’s my advice: try it affogato (over ice cream). I can’t explain why it changes the flavor so much, because no amount of sweetener added to a cup of coffee or a shot of espresso makes it palatable for me, but for some reason, it’s fucking delicious over ice cream. you’ve honestly just had shit coffee. It’s not all the same just as not all cars are the same. You can’t drive a lawnmower and say all vehicles are slow.

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Coffee can taste soooo good, but making good coffee is such a pain in the ass. Once you’ve found your preferred brewing method and ratios, a good cup of coffee can still take so much work. I went from “pour over” with no measurements using a grocery store plastic pour-over cone and a blade grinder to a modest manual espresso set up with an entry level electric conical burr grinder and a v60 routine for regular coffee. With everything going on in the world, I really got into coffee and have a lot of fun with it.

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Part of the coffee experience is the smell. Even a coffee lover won’t enjoy coffee if they pinch their nose while drinking. You don’t have to like coffee. It’s okay. This sub doesn’t need to degenerate into an unwinnable debate about subjective personal taste. I swear it’s more of an abusive relationship rather than thinking that it tastes good. I hate coffee’s flavor, but when I go without coffee for a day, I miss its acidic and bitter taste

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It’s definitely an acquired taste for most people, I hated coffee but drank it for the caffeine boost many years ago. Now, give me a shot of espresso and I’ll judge that thing like I’m a coffee nazi! I love the taste of straight espresso providing its made correctly, pour times are perfect on the machine and the beans are of good quality.

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