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I could be completely wrong here, but I always thought of it as a cultural thing. Like, Americans for a long time have been very anti-socialist and have equated anything even remotely socialist as evil. (Likely due to the cold war and their poor relationship with countries like Russia.) Because of this, something like a free health care system may feel like a ‘slippery slope’ to becoming the very kind of people they deem as bad so to speak and as such, want to avoid that at all costs. I do feel like times are changing though and more Americans are realizing that they can achieve things like free health care without becoming a socialist state.

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In my opinion, as an American and former healthcare worker, it has more to do with our government and their inability to handle just about anything. Healthcare is also political. The affordable care act reinforced that for a lot of people. It did give coverage to people but at the same time, it drove premiums for everyone else insanely high. As in from a few hundred to thousands. How is that affordable? The insurance industry here is a joke. Those companies will do anything they can to not pay out and so many of these companies are in the pockets of politicians. It’s a shit show quite honestly. If the government would not stick their nose in everything it would force more competition and lower prices. And, it has become so ridiculously complicated. But, just my opinion.

 

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I see a lot of people saying “but they are stupid” in more or fewer words and I feel they are all missing the point, so I want to address them all here. I’m not trying to advocate for or against universal health care in any way, but op asked what people against universal healthcare actually believe and I put down the concerns of people who are strong advocates against it based on conversations with them. There’s a lot of rhetoric around it being too expensive. There’s also a lot of rhetoric saying things like the government couldn’t possibly do it as well as the privatized market.

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The biggest problem is that the number of people with jobs that provide “good” insurance is just enough to keep the system going and anecdotally support the existing process. Most people with “good” insurance are so utterly dependant on it or so utterly comfortable with it that they don’t take a step back and realize that they are the minority or that even with their “good” insurance the system is still bullshit. I have “good” insurance but I desperately need a good consultation on my back to investigate the status of my blown l4 and l5 but an MRI is still going to cost me 300 out of pocket and I need to go to a general practitioner to get a referral to a neurologist in the network.

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You forgot corruption. While not nearly as corrupt as other countries, many politicians from both parties are essentially controlled by corporations, as the corporations provide funding for their campaigns and help them stay in power. And it is in the interest of health insurance corporations to prevent something like M4A. It would not be a biased or incorrect statement to say that this is much more a Republican problem than a democrat problem, though it affects both. Thank you for the insightful answer. This is actually well thought out and a lot of where I fall. I agree with a smaller Federal Government and am scared of the prospect of a potential DMV like the medical system with no competition.

To be honest that’s why I’ve been down with creating a Medicare rule where people can buy into it (i.e it doesn’t have to be just for seniors) if we’re being honest. Outright dissolving those companies would damn millions who work for the healthcare sector, like you said, and cause millions of Americans retirement stock accounts to diminish its value significantly. But by still have a public, and private, option that wouldn’t be a problem and it would encourage the private sector to do better and cover more since it would always have competition.

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You have to remember it. This bull had to weigh every bit of 2800 pounds if not 3. I watched this thing slam into a post that was made of a 3.5-inch drill stem and bent it. He had 3 teens trapped in the field. They were so fucking stupid and reckless but I was honestly scared for them. So at that moment, the bull had to die.

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I don’t really understand what happened next but my understanding is the police were involved as were many lawyers. He claimed damages for the cost of work put into the field, damage to his property, the cost of seeds, and loss of earning

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He set up a gate with a clear “Private Property – Keep Out” sign with a couple of cameras. He then did as he originally intended, and plowed his new field ready for sowing crops. Several months pass and all is fine, and he sows whatever it is he was going to (I can’t remember now).

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A few weeks later the idiots turn up, tear down his gate and run through his field ripping a good third of it to shreds. It’s all on camera. The vehicles, the numberplates, the people who pulled down the gate… All of it.

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I once worked with a guy who bought some land that people started driving over. They claimed they were allowed to before so why not now (the previous owner said they were told many times not to and had stopped long before the sale went through which is why it wasn’t mentioned.

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Yea we bought some rural property a few years ago for a camp, and we made it clear to the neighbors that we no longer wanted any outsiders to drive their ATVs and jeeps on it. You would not believe the hissy fit they threw. It took us 2 years, calls to the police, etc… to finally get them to respect the fact that it is private property.

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If you poached his land for fish or off-roading 8 times out of 10 you’d hit a trap. A lot of scummy trout fishermen calling for evac because they ran into something bigger than a varmint trap. His land, his rules, and since he legally trapped and hunted the property, people who trespassed generally didn’t have a leg left to stand on legally. True story. Great guy taught me a ton of tracking skills.

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The mentality of some people is over the top – well I have been hunting, fishing, hiking, etc. this property for xx years….or the classic up North ‘well the land owners are only here on a few weekends blah blah blah while we live here year around’. It is trespassing.

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I get a call in the middle of the night from the sheriff to get the bull because its got some kids in a truck trapped. It completely ruined that truck. Snapped the front tire off. Ripped the bumper up etc. We had to shoot the poor bastard. Never heard of anyone going to that field again.

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Tranquilizers are iffy because of the weight of an animal. You will either do nothing but piss a bull off more or kill it if you dose it wrong. Plus the price and what not. That was truly the only situation I can remember that tranquilizers would have been an option.

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My grandfather was an old vet. He owned a farm. The man was a fucking crack shot with a rifle. Anyway, the town started to get more developed and people started flooding in. So eventually people thought it would be a good idea to mud ride on his property. Not smart. I got a call one night that he shot the engine of a truck that was on his property.

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The cops told him never to do that again and just call them. This old salty farmer goes to the stock yard and buys the biggest meanest long horn iv ever seen and lets the bastard have free range on the field they like to ride in. So about a month after the shooting incident.

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Why is he assuming the guy is wasting gas and breaking down his car faster by mudding if it’s subjective then? Tesla themselves remotely log into the cars to disable shit all the time. Just a matter of time before someone like 4chan does it to a car on the highway for the lulz.

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